On today’s episode I discuss “the Howard Jones question” with the inimitable Dominic Pettman, media theorist and author of such books as Creaturely Love (2017) and Humid, All Too Humid (2016). He is really a great guest; I mostly just laughed throughout the episode. Here I’m sending you a 3-minute excerpt. Go to the “What Is X?” webpage to hear the whole thing!
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